First Look at MP Rhinox and Legacy Silverbolt
Friday, September 29th, 2023 10:14AM CDT
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Posted by blackeyedprime on September 29th, 2023 @ 10:21am CDT
Posted by Bounti76 on September 29th, 2023 @ 11:32am CDT
blackeyedprime wrote:Rhinox better be able to recreate the too many beans action. Still wondering what happened to MP Rattrap unless they are waiting for another year of the rat.
Forget MP Rattrap, I'm still wondering whatever happened to MP Cliffjumper- we've seen test shots, painted samples, etc, for a couple of years now, it seems like, but no reveal or announcement.
Back on topic, I'm a little surprised that Kingdom came and went with no BW Silverbolt, Legacy and Legacy Evolution both came and went. Even a three episode figure (Tigerhawk) was announced and shown before a main character like Silverbolt.
Posted by Munkky on September 29th, 2023 @ 12:31pm CDT
Posted by Immortal Starscream on September 29th, 2023 @ 12:47pm CDT
Bounti76 wrote:blackeyedprime wrote:Rhinox better be able to recreate the too many beans action. Still wondering what happened to MP Rattrap unless they are waiting for another year of the rat.
Forget MP Rattrap, I'm still wondering whatever happened to MP Cliffjumper- we've seen test shots, painted samples, etc, for a couple of years now, it seems like, but no reveal or announcement.
Back on topic, I'm a little surprised that Kingdom came and went with no BW Silverbolt, Legacy and Legacy Evolution both came and went. Even a three episode figure (Tigerhawk) was announced and shown before a main character like Silverbolt.
might have something to do with beast wars metals not being popular in Japan. they really wanted to focus on the core beasties to maximize profit on both sides of the pond I would wager.
Seeing both of these guys on the horizon though gives me the warm fuzzies. keep bringing the mp beasts hastaktom
Posted by Stormshot_Prime on September 29th, 2023 @ 10:50pm CDT
My ultimate hope is a Maximal Transmetal 2 Blackarachnia, and ultimately an Arcee out of that!
Posted by ZeroWolf on September 30th, 2023 @ 3:04am CDT
Stormshot_Prime wrote:YES! Please, more Fuzors and Transmetals. I can almost smell the Depth Charge and Rampage On the horizon. Knew Silvie would be made from Tigerhawk the second I saw him, still want both.
My ultimate hope is a Maximal Transmetal 2 Blackarachnia, and ultimately an Arcee out of that!
I wouldn't be sure about a Tigerhawk retool as there is a whole class size of difference between them (I belive leaks put him at Voyager level to Tigerhawk's leader class). There may be shared engineering however but it could also be its own thing entirely (not like it doesn't have repaint potential).
Posted by Emerje on September 30th, 2023 @ 8:42am CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:Stormshot_Prime wrote:YES! Please, more Fuzors and Transmetals. I can almost smell the Depth Charge and Rampage On the horizon. Knew Silvie would be made from Tigerhawk the second I saw him, still want both.
My ultimate hope is a Maximal Transmetal 2 Blackarachnia, and ultimately an Arcee out of that!
I wouldn't be sure about a Tigerhawk retool as there is a whole class size of difference between them (I belive leaks put him at Voyager level to Tigerhawk's leader class). There may be shared engineering however but it could also be its own thing entirely (not like it doesn't have repaint potential).
yeah, just comparing the two there's no obvious parts in common. Tigerhawk has plenty of repaint potential like toy colors and Universe Razorclaw so it's not necessary to retool it to get the most out of the mold.
There is that theory that Tigerhawk will be somehow retooled into the Leader Thundertron from the Star Seeker capsule at Walmart, but I'm very doubtful of that.
Emerje
Posted by ZeroWolf on September 30th, 2023 @ 3:13pm CDT
Emerje wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:Stormshot_Prime wrote:YES! Please, more Fuzors and Transmetals. I can almost smell the Depth Charge and Rampage On the horizon. Knew Silvie would be made from Tigerhawk the second I saw him, still want both.
My ultimate hope is a Maximal Transmetal 2 Blackarachnia, and ultimately an Arcee out of that!
I wouldn't be sure about a Tigerhawk retool as there is a whole class size of difference between them (I belive leaks put him at Voyager level to Tigerhawk's leader class). There may be shared engineering however but it could also be its own thing entirely (not like it doesn't have repaint potential).
yeah, just comparing the two there's no obvious parts in common. Tigerhawk has plenty of repaint potential like toy colors and Universe Razorclaw so it's not necessary to retool it to get the most out of the mold.
There is that theory that Tigerhawk will be somehow retooled into the Leader Thundertron from the Star Seeker capsule at Walmart, but I'm very doubtful of that.
Emerje
I was always doubtful about that one but we'll see eventually. Though to think that a character like Thundertron would get a release in two different size classes in the space of 12 months is a bit amusing.
Posted by Lain Iwakura on October 1st, 2023 @ 12:08am CDT
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on October 1st, 2023 @ 5:01am CDT
Posted by Grahf_ on October 1st, 2023 @ 3:23pm CDT
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on October 1st, 2023 @ 3:35pm CDT
Posted by TulioDude on October 1st, 2023 @ 7:09pm CDT
Nice to have another version of Beast Wars Silverbolt. THe original toy was already pretty accurate, only needing new wings and be taller, so I wonder this new version will add.
Day 1370 of waiting for Transformers Armada Masterpiece news.
Posted by Cheesinator on October 2nd, 2023 @ 9:13am CDT
Munkky wrote:While the wings look a bit odd, overall Silverbolt doesn't look too bad, and I will definitely pick one up once he's out. As far as beasts go, I'm still hoping we get Depth Charge and Rampage one day, Quickstrike I can take or leave because I never really liked the character in the show, and maybe in a few years I'd like another go at Scorponok, because that Kingdom Deluxe isn't very good.
Oh hell yes. For some reason I'd totally forgotten this was a possibility.
BW Rampage is my personal nostalgia champion (had one of the dopest intro episodes ever on the show and was the first action figure I ever remember being properly hyped for) so that'd be an auto-buy for me. I thought the original figure was pretty cool but with modern engineering they could improve soooo much on it.
Posted by william-james88 on October 5th, 2023 @ 12:27pm CDT
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on October 5th, 2023 @ 12:35pm CDT
Have their really been nine Masterpiece releases since Tigatron??
Posted by ScottyP on October 5th, 2023 @ 12:58pm CDT
Posted by Overcracker on October 5th, 2023 @ 1:03pm CDT
Also, I know it's just the Rhino mouth's upper palate behind his head, but it totally looks like Rhinox has long blonde hair and a mohawk.
Posted by william-james88 on October 5th, 2023 @ 1:04pm CDT
Posted by bluecatcinema on October 5th, 2023 @ 1:56pm CDT
Posted by angtre on October 5th, 2023 @ 1:58pm CDT
Looks fantastic. Though it's a shame they couldn't include a way to replicate his "evil" look from "Dark Designs".
It'd need an almost complete repaint to be spot on. I don't know whether the episode is so popular to justify it, even if that would allow to reuse the mold.
Posted by blackeyedprime on October 5th, 2023 @ 2:43pm CDT
Posted by william-james88 on October 5th, 2023 @ 2:48pm CDT
bluecatcinema wrote:Looks fantastic. Though it's a shame they couldn't include a way to replicate his "evil" look from "Dark Designs".
Sounds like a great redeco option
Posted by DeathReviews on October 5th, 2023 @ 3:56pm CDT
Posted by First-Aid on October 5th, 2023 @ 6:57pm CDT
Posted by Seibertron on October 5th, 2023 @ 8:20pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:bluecatcinema wrote:Looks fantastic. Though it's a shame they couldn't include a way to replicate his "evil" look from "Dark Designs".
Sounds like a great redeco option
I agree, especially since he gets a whole new Predacon color scheme with the silver instead of gold and I think a purplish tint to his skin color instead of brown (and perhaps some other color swaps???). A Predacon Rhinox redeco would be very welcomed!
Rhinox looks fantastic. I think these Beast Wars Masterpiece figures have been absolutely the best of the entire line, which is ironic because I complain about the overly cartoon look on the modern G1 Masterpiece figures, but absolutely am thrilled at how accurate these are to the Beast Wars cartoon. Brain conflicts!
Hm, thinking about a Predacon Rhinox redeco, you know what would be fun is to see an Insecticon color scheme on Waspinator inspired by him talking about Shrapnel in Dark Designs. Maybe on a Transmetal Waspinator if they ever tackle those (just as a fun non-canon one-off), though canonically his original body would make sense from Dark Designs, but for legacy purposes Transmetal Waspinator would fit in better with G1 Insecticons.
Posted by BluePhirePB on October 5th, 2023 @ 8:21pm CDT
Well crap, now I can't unsee it!Overcracker wrote:Rhinox looks fantastic. Damn the need to complete the Maximals.
Also, I know it's just the Rhino mouth's upper palate behind his head, but it totally looks like Rhinox has long blonde hair and a mohawk.
Posted by TK415 on October 5th, 2023 @ 10:14pm CDT
Seibertron wrote:Rhinox looks fantastic. I think these Beast Wars Masterpiece figures have been absolutely the best of the entire line, which is ironic because I complain about the overly cartoon look on the modern G1 Masterpiece figures, but absolutely am thrilled at how accurate these are to the Beast Wars cartoon. Brain conflicts!
That is funny. I feel the same way. But now that I think about it, it makes sense. Beast Wars being cg was much closer to being photo-realistic. So show to toy works. The 84 cartoon was a drawing of what we imagined to be photo realistic. So show accuracy may be cool and fun for some people looking for cartoon looking models, but for others it seems off.
Posted by william-james88 on October 5th, 2023 @ 10:36pm CDT
TK415 wrote:Seibertron wrote:Rhinox looks fantastic. I think these Beast Wars Masterpiece figures have been absolutely the best of the entire line, which is ironic because I complain about the overly cartoon look on the modern G1 Masterpiece figures, but absolutely am thrilled at how accurate these are to the Beast Wars cartoon. Brain conflicts!
That is funny. I feel the same way. But now that I think about it, it makes sense. Beast Wars being cg was much closer to being photo-realistic. So show to toy works. The 84 cartoon was a drawing of what we imagined to be photo realistic. So show accuracy may be cool and fun for some people looking for cartoon looking models, but for others it seems off.
There's that. Plus there's the idea that the CG transformations and differences between modes are literally impossible (they replace one 3d model with another), while the G1 show transformations were all based on the toy transformations. So While giving Optimus a fake cab feels off, since the part is right there, giving Rhinox a totally different "fake" rhino mouth is fine since that cartoon look simply can't be replicated. Plus, I love how they still find ways to incporporate these fake parts in the alt modes, like having the fake raptor head on Dinobot's chest become the belly for the raptor mode.
I stopped collecting G1 MPs because I found it cheating that they would just use fake parts for everything, for slight aesthetic reasons. I get something more satisfying with the CGUG lines. But with Beasts Wars, nothing comes close and the MPs feel like miracles. Still waiting on that Terrorsaur.
Posted by Overcracker on October 6th, 2023 @ 1:08pm CDT
BluePhirePB wrote:Well crap, now I can't unsee it!Overcracker wrote:Rhinox looks fantastic. Damn the need to complete the Maximals.
Also, I know it's just the Rhino mouth's upper palate behind his head, but it totally looks like Rhinox has long blonde hair and a mohawk.
You're welcome.
Posted by william-james88 on October 6th, 2023 @ 1:27pm CDT
Listings from Japanese retailers at their discounted retail price, like $165 USD at Ami Ami are now up. We'll update when Amazon Japan has a similar price.
Posted by Overcracker on October 6th, 2023 @ 1:42pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:At first, all Masterpiece Transformers figures look like magic. But then you see different angles and slowly you can see the compromises done to turn this into an actual physical figure. Well Rhinox looked like pure magic once again, so the big question was: how does the back look like? Well, not bad as it turns out. There is a backpack, which he should have, but it looks clean for what it is rather than a mess of parts. You can see for yourself with these images from Takara. The side view of the rhino mode does look more messy with some robot bits peering from the bottom.
Listings from Japanese retailers at their discounted retail price, like $165 USD at Ami Ami. We'll update when Amazon Japan has a similar price.
Thanks. Pre-Ordered. Release date set for June. Will save up some money starting on January.
Posted by Emerje on October 6th, 2023 @ 8:15pm CDT
Are the rhino eyes articulated? In the top image they're looking forward, but on the bottom they're looking to the side. Is it just a trick of the camera?
Emerje
Posted by william-james88 on October 6th, 2023 @ 9:13pm CDT
Posted by First-Aid on October 7th, 2023 @ 12:41pm CDT
Posted by TulioDude on October 7th, 2023 @ 6:43pm CDT
Feels nice to see his cartoon head again, after the previous toys seemed to ignore it.
The enginering looks very solid.
Day 1374 of waiting for Transformers Armada Masterpiece news.
Posted by Emerje on October 7th, 2023 @ 11:30pm CDT
Emerje
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on October 9th, 2023 @ 10:23am CDT
Transformers Takaratomy Masterpiece MP-59 Rhinox
Expected ship date Jul 1 – 7
NOTE: ID Toys now has free preorders.
So that's the RRP out of the way
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on October 12th, 2023 @ 3:33pm CDT
That price though, ouch
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on October 12th, 2023 @ 3:50pm CDT
Seibertron wrote:william-james88 wrote:bluecatcinema wrote:Looks fantastic. Though it's a shame they couldn't include a way to replicate his "evil" look from "Dark Designs".
Sounds like a great redeco option
I agree, especially since he gets a whole new Predacon color scheme with the silver instead of gold and I think a purplish tint to his skin color instead of brown (and perhaps some other color swaps???). A Predacon Rhinox redeco would be very welcomed!
Let's also be clear. Aside from the Dark Design redeco, Rhinox is a one and done mould. He had a Takara colour scheme variation*. But there were no other bots that came from him.
Rattrap, Terrorsaur and Scorponok have the most redeco variants of those remaining. Airazor and Tarantulas have none. Waspinator technically has Buzzsaw and Inferno has Antagony. I'd like to see all of the variants in the MP line. But it's hard to tell if Takara will extend the BW MP line that far.
Posted by Emerje on October 13th, 2023 @ 11:09pm CDT
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Seibertron wrote:william-james88 wrote:bluecatcinema wrote:Looks fantastic. Though it's a shame they couldn't include a way to replicate his "evil" look from "Dark Designs".
Sounds like a great redeco option
I agree, especially since he gets a whole new Predacon color scheme with the silver instead of gold and I think a purplish tint to his skin color instead of brown (and perhaps some other color swaps???). A Predacon Rhinox redeco would be very welcomed!
Let's also be clear. Aside from the Dark Design redeco, Rhinox is a one and done mould. He had a Takara colour scheme variation*. But there were no other bots that came from him.
There's always the possibility of giving a new name to the Fox Kids repaint. It's not like the MP line doesn't already have a long history of taking obscure repaints and giving them new identities.
Emerje
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on October 14th, 2023 @ 12:41pm CDT
Emerje wrote:There's always the possibility of giving a new name to the Fox Kids repaint. It's not like the MP line doesn't already have a long history of taking obscure repaints and giving them new identities.
Emerje
I'd be fine with that. I suppose that depends on how well Rhinox sells? Remember both Grimlock and T-Wrecks have not made it into the Beast Wars MP line so far.
I did forget this Rhinox had a Fox Kids redeco too. I guess that is three redeco possibilities for Rhinox.
One of them could be re-appropriated as this guy:
Happy Meal "Rhino"
Posted by william-james88 on October 23rd, 2023 @ 9:24pm CDT
For those unaware, orders from Japan for MP figures tend to ship sooner than their Hasbro counterparts. So that's another reason fans tend to choose Amazon Japan over western retailers. You'll let us know which option you go with.
Link: https://www.amazon.co.jp/-/en/gp/aw/d/B ... UTF8&psc=1?tag=seibertron00-22&
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on October 23rd, 2023 @ 11:22pm CDT
Posted by Dino-Snarl on October 24th, 2023 @ 1:52am CDT
Posted by ScottyP on October 24th, 2023 @ 7:57am CDT
Anyway so I have like a dozen POs there at the moment, not intending to discourage
Posted by william-james88 on October 24th, 2023 @ 10:45am CDT
Nemesis Maximo wrote:They seem to be all gone now…
That's bizarre because when I click the same link, it shows as available for pre-order.
Posted by figureguy on October 24th, 2023 @ 1:21pm CDT
Amazon.co.jp's price for not-yet-released items changes occasionally from the time an item is listed for sale to the time it's released and shipped. When you pre-order an item, the price we charge is the lowest price (tax inclusive) displayed on Amazon.co.jp from the time you place your order until the shipping process begins (or release date of the item, whichever comes earlier).
A pre-order price guarantee message appears on your Order Summary during the checkout process. If you use 1-Click ordering, pre-order price protection is applied automatically. The order summary in Your Account reflects the lowest price within 24-48 hours of the price change. The actual price that you're charged is stated in the shipment confirmation email.
Big reason why I always throw a pre-order at something I want from them as soon as it goes live.
Posted by Dino-Snarl on October 24th, 2023 @ 3:19pm CDT
ScottyP wrote:Keep in mind that's at today's exchange rate. You get charged when the figure comes out for whatever the rate is at that time. That's been advantageous as heck using USD for years, but never know when that luck will turn.
Anyway so I have like a dozen POs there at the moment, not intending to discourage
good point! Not deterred
Posted by william-james88 on November 21st, 2023 @ 9:41am CST
https://www.amazon.co.jp/-/en/dp/B0CK9Z ... sform0c-22?tag=seibertron00-22&